Engine mounting question...

"RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars" (rallydarkstrike) 02/13/2019 at 08:18 • Filed to: None

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Hi all!

I was just playing around the Automation: The Game and BeamNG game duo (look them up if you haven’t - Automation lets you design a car from scratch in amazing detail and then export it to the BeamNG game for you to drive around!)

As you all know, I love quirky cars, so I was working on my beige communist lumpmobile called the Gazelle...

... which is rear-engined, rear-wheel-drive (I sortof thought of it as a classic Skoda ripoff). The only option the game has for rear-mounted engines is rear longitudinal. Makes sense. But that got me to wondering, are there any RR cars that ever had a rear-mounted TRANSVERSE engine with rear wheel drive?

Now, I don’t mean MID-rear-engined, I mean REAR engined with a transverse placement. I can’t think of any and some basic and half-hearted Google searching doesn’t seem to be finding anything ...?

WilliamsSW > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 02/13/2019 at 09:02

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Sounds like you need Torch. He might know. 

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 02/13/2019 at 09:07

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There are any number of buses configured that way. Cars, can’t really think of anything. The Smart 453 is right on the edge.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 02/13/2019 at 09:10

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I believe the logical layout for a transverse engine places the axles behind the engine block. I'm sure there have been vehicles with a transverse engine with the engine behind the axles but I don't think moving the engine back a foot is enough for them to specify rear engine instead of mid.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 02/13/2019 at 10:55

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It would appear that the MG F/TF is dancing on the edge.

In fact, I’m prepared to call its popular description as “mid” bullshit. The centerline is clearly behind the rear axle.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 02/13/2019 at 11:01

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I found one, and it is usually described as mid-engined. Which is nonsense, because any cars with a transverse engine at all ahead of the front wheels is described as front-engined. Sure, it’ll be kind of like a mid-engined car under braking, but much more rear engined under acceleration, so...

The logical layout for a transverse engine is with axle either ahead or behind rather than directly under, and most people want a trunk and don’t mind not having volvo-style ski-holes through from the trunk, so wheels under trunk, engine behind seats is the name of the game - but mechanically it doesn’t have to be.

Out, but with a W - has found the answer > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 02/13/2019 at 14:34

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The engine in the MR2 Roadster sits pretty much on top of the axle.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 02/13/2019 at 15:07

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I would agree with you!

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > WilliamsSW 02/13/2019 at 15:08

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He probably would!

WilliamsSW > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 02/13/2019 at 15:14

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That’s in the rear!